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Song Info:  'Fresh Dog' by stueym    
Avg. Rating: 8.08
# of Ratings: 26
Posted: 2005-12-11 16:56:32
http://www.thebjam.com/mod/song/view_song.php?song_id=40&album_id= That has lyrics. You're gonna need them.

(Also, this is Bjam posting this, stueym doesn't know this is up here yet.)

I never liked the Proclaimers.
--- johnny cashpoint 2005-12-12 17:58

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StueyM Multiquote Quote
I never liked the Proclaimers.
--johnny cashpoint, 2005-12-12 17:58:55


You know just because its sung in Scots vernacular by a Scotsman doesn't make it a copycat of the Proclaimers....who actually made a point of never using Scots prose in their songs (cos they are too posh!!). Anyway on that note they come from snobby Leith on the east coast while I have a fine working class Ayrshire Brogue (west coast representin'!)

To my American friends thats around 60 miles ;-)

I could also point to every South East of England indie whiner as a rip-off derivative of Paul Weller but that would hardly be fair to other fine musicians from Woking trying to overcome their own oral disabilities.

All that said I always love your attention J$ no matter what. :-P
Posted: 2005-12-12 21:50:07      Edited: 2005-12-12 21:50:07


johnny cashpoint Multiquote Quote
"This totally works because of the Scottish thing. If it was in English, I'd hate it. But it's not, so it's [good]." wrote Frankie.

"I never liked the Proclaimers." wrote me, forgetting to quote him and to add the requisite :)

:)

(Although to these untrained ears it does sound more like the Proclaimers than other scottish bands. Maybe it's thick scots accent and folky guitar. It's also in the phrasing and the cocal rhythms of the song. )

j$
Posted: 2005-12-13 03:47:46      Edited: 2005-12-13 03:49:38


frankie Multiquote Quote
Wait a minute....did I just get dissed? I'm not sure; this is all so confusing.

To be clear about my comment, I am talking about the subject matter. I hate songs that have comical (or otherwise) references to urination, defecation, flatulence, etc. I guess I just don't have that kind of sense of humor. But this song works for me because it replaces the obvious joke with a more sophisticated one by adding the Scottish dialect. And my brain tells me I don't totally dislike the Proclaimers, although I'd be hard-pressed to name a song by them.
Posted: 2005-12-13 06:13:02      Edited: 2005-12-13 06:13:02


StueyM Multiquote Quote
Wait a minute....did I just get dissed? I'm not sure; this is all so confusing.

To be clear about my comment, I am talking about the subject matter. I hate songs that have comical (or otherwise) references to urination, defecation, flatulence, etc. I guess I just don't have that kind of sense of humor. But this song works for me because it replaces the obvious joke with a more sophisticated one by adding the Scottish dialect. And my brain tells me I don't totally dislike the Proclaimers, although I'd be hard-pressed to name a song by them.
--frankie, 2005-12-13 06:13:02


LOL Thanks Frankie. You're right I would never write or sing something in English that was that base in its humor, but these words just flowed when I was thinking about this cocky wee dog and how much he pissed me off (cat fan here).

As to Proclaimers, I am actually a huge fan of theirs.

Letter from America
I'm Gonna Be (500 miles)
I'm on my way (The song from Shrek)

If you dont mind their obviously tainted accents then there is some terrific songwriting across their greatest hits album. In particular I love "Throw the R away" which is very appropriate to this topic :-)!!!

J$ I love you man! I would be sad, but never upset if you didnt like something of mine.
Posted: 2005-12-13 07:19:04      Edited: 2005-12-13 07:19:04


obscurity Multiquote Quote

You know just because its sung in Scots vernacular by a Scotsman doesn't make it a copycat of the Proclaimers....
--StueyM, 2005-12-12 21:50:07


If it makes you feel any better, it made me think of The Wicker Man.

:)
Posted: 2005-12-13 14:10:37      Edited: 2005-12-13 14:10:37


johnny cashpoint Multiquote Quote
To clear up, Frankie I wasn't dissing you! As if I could bring myself to do that ...

In my own confused way, I took umbrage to your comment, half-misunderstanding your point, and replied by saying something I thought equally contentious, and out of character, in defence of South of the Border.

Now you've made it a bit clearer, it's equally clear who the dummy was here (this time and many times in the past) so apologies. i should have thought a bit harder about it before flash-posting.

* mumble mumble..but it does sound like the Proclaimers... slopes off :)

Posted: 2005-12-13 14:12:14      Edited: 2005-12-13 14:12:14


StueyM Multiquote Quote

You know just because its sung in Scots vernacular by a Scotsman doesn't make it a copycat of the Proclaimers....
--StueyM, 2005-12-12 21:50:07


If it makes you feel any better, it made me think of The Wicker Man.

:)
--obscurity, 2005-12-13 14:10:37


Oh man thats awesome.....can I sing it while Bridget Bardot dances that kooky naked dance except without the wall being there!! :-)

I had this awesome 4'x2' poster of BB wearing a straw cowboy hat, jeans with the zipper undone and her arms crossed over her naked upper torso. Hmmmmmm! This on the wall of a 12 yr old boy shows remarkable openmindedness on the part of my mother.

And Yes Johnny, it does sound like the Proclaimers which I will take as the huge compliment that your clearly intended it to be in the first place but couldn't find the correct words to express;-)
Posted: 2005-12-13 19:33:49      Edited: 2005-12-13 19:35:44


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